[Ngamer]

fuente: sonicparadise.net

Habrá que seguir esperando para saber que camino tomará el erizo este año.

Tan solo para un día de discusión ha dado este rumor. Sonic Propel ha sido confirmado como Fake por parte de la mismísima persona que lo creó.

Esta persona, la cual es un usuario del foro Sonic Retro, ha publicado unas disculpas y unas explicaciones sobre el por qué de todo esto en el mismo lugar donde ya publicó los rumores, la web Reddit. Según esta persona, su intención no era ni mucho menos lo que ha ocurrido, él pensaba que tan solo daría para un par de hilos en algún foro, y poco más. Su idea inicial era un "experimento social" como ha decidido llamarlo.

Ha dividido su intención en tres puntos, los cuales son 1. Ver hasta donde llegaría esto, 2. Comprobar cuan "populares" eran sus gustos en comparación al resto de la comunidad y 3. Probar una teoría sobre la comunidad de fans del erizo. Esta teoría se basa en que aunque en multitud de ocasiones, como sabréis, los fans llegan a pelear sobre si una cosa es mejor o peor (Diseño clásico o moderno, jugabilidad a la Adventure o jugabilidad a la Unleashed, etc), todos o la gran mayoría estamos de acuerdo en muchas cosas. Y según él, esto ha sido demostrado ya que en multitud de foros y fans sites como este mismo, los fans se han mostrado contentos con la gran mayoría de detalles que dio sobre este ficticio Sonic Propel.

También comenta que escribió el texto en japonés, ya que de esa forma "daría juego" al buscar traducciones y ver como programas como el traductos de Google solo liaban más aún las cosas. Algunas de las informaciones se han traducido completamente al revés, al parecer pretendía decir que el estilo gráfico sería más surrealista aún, algo parecido a Sonic CD, al contrario del tono realista que se creía que mencionaba.

Esto significa, en resumen, que habrá que seguir esperando para ver con que juegos nos sorprende Sonic este año, pero tranquilos, que no estamos ni a mediados de Enero, queda todo el año por delante, mucho tiempo para grandes anuncios, y tendréis todos ellos como no, en Sonic Paradise.

[Knudow]

Darle credibilidad a 2 posts sin comentarios ni votos, uno por un usuario borrado, otro por un usuario nuevo........

http://www.reddit.co... ... ic_propel/

http://www.reddit.co... ... ehog_2013/

[Lyla]

O sea, que es u rumor.

[Knudow]

No es ni un rumor, es una lista puesta por una persona sin aportar nada más y sin ser conocida y sin que nadie (en Reddit) le diese importancia...

Es como si escribo esta lista y la pongo en un corcho de la universidad sin decir nada más.

[MiglMiglianoMiglest]

¡¡Oh dios Knudow!! ¿¡Y qué has puesto en la lista!? :shock:

[Knudow]

Sonic Papulo
* Pepito de ternera
* Perrito velocidad
* Robotnik cocinero

[MiglMiglianoMiglest]

No puedo esperar.

[Robert]

EDIT: Es fake... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[DaGuAr]

[Knudow]

Me refería a un perrito caliente que hace correr a Sonic, cachis, filtré mal la información!!

[Miles Wolf]

Creo que en Sonic Paradise deberían contrastar un poco más. A la mínima que ven un texto en el que pone "Sonic" ya corren a ponerlo en su web, por mucho que digan que son rumores.

[Lyla]

Lo que no que tienen que hacer precisamenrte es poner rumores, cuando sean noticias contrastadas que las pongan pero claro, si de 100 rumores aciertan 2 ya se echan flores

[DaGuAr]

http://www.reddit.com/user/33002

Spoiler

I’ve got some explaining to do….

Yo, everyone! I’m 33002, aka the originator of the Sonic Propel rumor. Just to clear things up, no, it is not real, and no, I am not really Japanese. I’m just a dork who is a regular on the Sonic Retro forums that decided to give the ol’ rumor mill a try.

I had NO idea this would get so huge, I was hoping it might just spur some discussion on a forum or two. My bad.

The reason I chose to post it as Japanese was because when people try to translate it back to English, Google translate butchers it beyond belief and makes it almost impossible to verify. Unless you speak Japanese, at which point, I’m sure GT did the exact same thing to the Japanese Language

Yeah, it’s a troll. BUT. It was a troll with a purpose. A “social experiment,” if you will.

…Yeah, I’m a huge douche.

The purpose of doing this was three-fold:

[*:kas6itgq]Because I was bored and decided to see how far it would go
[*:kas6itgq]To gauge how popular my tastes in Sonic style is with other Sonic fans
[*:kas6itgq]To prove a theory I have about the Sonic fanbase.
Specifically, number 3 was a big one. I wanted to prove that, despite the claims to the contrary, the Sonic fanbase (at least those who enjoy Sonic games and look at things from a critical standopoint) is not as disjointed and “broken” as some may claim.

I used this troll as a barometer to determine what elements of the Sonic games fans can almost unanimously agree on… and the amount of those elements surprised me greatly; a metric butt-ton of the fans who responded to the rumor on the various fansites were, for the vast majority, responded very positively to many of the elements included.

Which really goes to show, the Sonic fanbase is a much better one than most give it credit for. Yes, everyone has varying opinions on many of the elements, but for the most part, you’d be surprised about how consistent a lot of the answers are. The biggest point of contention I noticed was the altering of the model, which I blame mostly on a terrible butchering of the intended message from Google Translate, and the minimalistic plot, which some loved, some hated.

Now to address some oddities:
[*:kas6itgq]The reason I deleted my original post is because I have almost no experience with Reddit, and I wanted alter my original post. I named the entry “Sonic Propel,” but after doing that and seeing little movement as far as comments, I decided to try deleting it and re-uploading it under “Sonic the Hedgehog 2013” because that would get a lot more search results than a title that is entirely new that no-one would be looking for. Ironically, the original was the one to pick up steam. I kinda kicked myself over that.
[*:kas6itgq]As stated previously, Google utterly destroyed the majority of the original meaning, and actually straight up said the OPPOSITE of what the initial meaning was. For instance, where it said the game’s art style was going to be REALISTIC, it was supposed to say SURREAL… like, the exact opposite of realistic. This also includes the Shadow the Hedgehog-esque level progression, which became much more confusing.
Why am I going into so much detail when most people will stop reading after “it’s fake?” No idea, I must just be delusional. Herpyderpderp.

So, I’m going to go ahead and post what the original thing was supposed to say before translating it so my full meaning is understood. In order to prove that I really AM the originator, go ahead and throw this into Google Translate, and it should be an exact match to the initial Japanese post.

And I’m sorry for getting people’s hopes up, and yes, I am a huge douchebag for this. For that reason, I’m not giving away my online identity for fear of being utterly torn to shreds but these were my personal hopes for a future Sonic game, and I was hoping that others shared my tastes, so I decided to gauge that on a massive scale the only way I knew how… and as it turns out a lot of you did! Which is cool.

Anyway, sorry again, everyone, and I hope this at least spurred some good discussion!

ORIGINAL MEANINGS:
Sonic the Hedgehog 2013
•Propel is the working title
•Will launch on 360, PS3 first, Wii U version will launch later
•Being developed by the Sonic Colors segment of Sonic Team
•No indication of being developed for next Microsoft and Sony consoles
•Success of Sonic CD digital re-release inspired the art direction of Propel, more surreal
•Sonic’s model altered, now between Classic and Modern iterations slightly shorter and stiffer spines, narrow limbs and rounded body, and shorter
•Uses Generations mechanics, with low-speed movements more fine-tuned for more accurate platforming
•Running on heavily-modified Hedgehog Engine, better lighting and motion blur
•Minimalistic plot
•Eggman deploys 5 special Metal Sonics, each with unique design and ability
•Attempting to re-launch Death Egg
•Dialogue greatly reduced, more action-based cutscenes
•Eggman speaks more than any other character.
•Emphasis on stage exploration
•”Assist” characters hidden in stages, act as optional power-ups similar to Wisps that can open secret paths
•Tails assist character’s fly ability functions like Sonic 4
•Shadow the Hedgehog-style branching level progression, but level routes accessed by multiple goal rings, rather than objectives
•3-Act level structure. Which goal ring you reach determines start location in next Act. Which goal ring is reached in Act 3 determines next stage, alters cutscenes and story progression and slightly alters resulting boss stage
•3 unlockable Challenge Acts per stage
•First stage “Evergreen Escapade”
•Optional Chaos Emeralds, requires multiple plays taking different routes to collect them all
•Super Sonic in all stages after Emeralds are collected
•Secret final battle once all Emeralds are collected
•Easy, Medium and Hard difficulty modes, hint bubbles and warnings can be disabled
•3DS version being developed by Dimps
•3DS version uses entirely new graphics engine
•3DS version primarily 2D, shifting to 3D segments controlled by touch pad
•3DS version different story development
•3DS version alternate assist characters, though Tails in both versions

TL;DR: Un tío de Sonic Retro que se aburría y soltó el rumor porque no tenía otra cosa que hacer.

[Miles Wolf]

Nunca he entendido el funcionamiento de Reddit. Siempre que lo veo me lía. Tampoco es que le haya dedicado mucho tiempo a entenderlo, todo sea dicho. xD

[Knudow]

http://www.reddit.com/user/33002

Spoiler

I’ve got some explaining to do….

Yo, everyone! I’m 33002, aka the originator of the Sonic Propel rumor. Just to clear things up, no, it is not real, and no, I am not really Japanese. I’m just a dork who is a regular on the Sonic Retro forums that decided to give the ol’ rumor mill a try.

I had NO idea this would get so huge, I was hoping it might just spur some discussion on a forum or two. My bad.

The reason I chose to post it as Japanese was because when people try to translate it back to English, Google translate butchers it beyond belief and makes it almost impossible to verify. Unless you speak Japanese, at which point, I’m sure GT did the exact same thing to the Japanese Language

Yeah, it’s a troll. BUT. It was a troll with a purpose. A “social experiment,” if you will.

…Yeah, I’m a huge douche.

The purpose of doing this was three-fold:

[*:2z2mncwz]Because I was bored and decided to see how far it would go
[*:2z2mncwz]To gauge how popular my tastes in Sonic style is with other Sonic fans
[*:2z2mncwz]To prove a theory I have about the Sonic fanbase.
Specifically, number 3 was a big one. I wanted to prove that, despite the claims to the contrary, the Sonic fanbase (at least those who enjoy Sonic games and look at things from a critical standopoint) is not as disjointed and “broken” as some may claim.

I used this troll as a barometer to determine what elements of the Sonic games fans can almost unanimously agree on… and the amount of those elements surprised me greatly; a metric butt-ton of the fans who responded to the rumor on the various fansites were, for the vast majority, responded very positively to many of the elements included.

Which really goes to show, the Sonic fanbase is a much better one than most give it credit for. Yes, everyone has varying opinions on many of the elements, but for the most part, you’d be surprised about how consistent a lot of the answers are. The biggest point of contention I noticed was the altering of the model, which I blame mostly on a terrible butchering of the intended message from Google Translate, and the minimalistic plot, which some loved, some hated.

Now to address some oddities:
[*:2z2mncwz]The reason I deleted my original post is because I have almost no experience with Reddit, and I wanted alter my original post. I named the entry “Sonic Propel,” but after doing that and seeing little movement as far as comments, I decided to try deleting it and re-uploading it under “Sonic the Hedgehog 2013” because that would get a lot more search results than a title that is entirely new that no-one would be looking for. Ironically, the original was the one to pick up steam. I kinda kicked myself over that.
[*:2z2mncwz]As stated previously, Google utterly destroyed the majority of the original meaning, and actually straight up said the OPPOSITE of what the initial meaning was. For instance, where it said the game’s art style was going to be REALISTIC, it was supposed to say SURREAL… like, the exact opposite of realistic. This also includes the Shadow the Hedgehog-esque level progression, which became much more confusing.
Why am I going into so much detail when most people will stop reading after “it’s fake?” No idea, I must just be delusional. Herpyderpderp.

So, I’m going to go ahead and post what the original thing was supposed to say before translating it so my full meaning is understood. In order to prove that I really AM the originator, go ahead and throw this into Google Translate, and it should be an exact match to the initial Japanese post.

And I’m sorry for getting people’s hopes up, and yes, I am a huge douchebag for this. For that reason, I’m not giving away my online identity for fear of being utterly torn to shreds but these were my personal hopes for a future Sonic game, and I was hoping that others shared my tastes, so I decided to gauge that on a massive scale the only way I knew how… and as it turns out a lot of you did! Which is cool.

Anyway, sorry again, everyone, and I hope this at least spurred some good discussion!

ORIGINAL MEANINGS:
Sonic the Hedgehog 2013
•Propel is the working title
•Will launch on 360, PS3 first, Wii U version will launch later
•Being developed by the Sonic Colors segment of Sonic Team
•No indication of being developed for next Microsoft and Sony consoles
•Success of Sonic CD digital re-release inspired the art direction of Propel, more surreal
•Sonic’s model altered, now between Classic and Modern iterations slightly shorter and stiffer spines, narrow limbs and rounded body, and shorter
•Uses Generations mechanics, with low-speed movements more fine-tuned for more accurate platforming
•Running on heavily-modified Hedgehog Engine, better lighting and motion blur
•Minimalistic plot
•Eggman deploys 5 special Metal Sonics, each with unique design and ability
•Attempting to re-launch Death Egg
•Dialogue greatly reduced, more action-based cutscenes
•Eggman speaks more than any other character.
•Emphasis on stage exploration
•”Assist” characters hidden in stages, act as optional power-ups similar to Wisps that can open secret paths
•Tails assist character’s fly ability functions like Sonic 4
•Shadow the Hedgehog-style branching level progression, but level routes accessed by multiple goal rings, rather than objectives
•3-Act level structure. Which goal ring you reach determines start location in next Act. Which goal ring is reached in Act 3 determines next stage, alters cutscenes and story progression and slightly alters resulting boss stage
•3 unlockable Challenge Acts per stage
•First stage “Evergreen Escapade”
•Optional Chaos Emeralds, requires multiple plays taking different routes to collect them all
•Super Sonic in all stages after Emeralds are collected
•Secret final battle once all Emeralds are collected
•Easy, Medium and Hard difficulty modes, hint bubbles and warnings can be disabled
•3DS version being developed by Dimps
•3DS version uses entirely new graphics engine
•3DS version primarily 2D, shifting to 3D segments controlled by touch pad
•3DS version different story development
•3DS version alternate assist characters, though Tails in both versions

TL;DR: Un tío de Sonic Retro que se aburría y soltó el rumor porque no tenía otra cosa que hacer.

Mola que diga lo de que no esperaba que se hiciese tan grande.... y sus 2 hilos de Reddit están negativos y con 3 respuestas xD Cómo coño llegó a expandirse algo así? Se ha publicado en muchos sitios? (no estoy al tanto de las noticias de juegos, y menos de Sonic)

Nunca he entendido el funcionamiento de Reddit. Siempre que lo veo me lía. Tampoco es que le haya dedicado mucho tiempo a entenderlo, todo sea dicho. xD

En Reddit hay 2 tipos de posts:
1) Enviar un link (puede ser una imagen, video, web... vamos, un link)
2) Enviar un texto

La gente los vota positivamente o negativamente según les guste, y también pueden comentar. Las cosas con muchos votos salen en la portada ordenadas más o menos.

Los comentarios también son votables, y también puedes contestarlos, así que se crean árboles de comentarios.


Por último, Reddit tiene varios (muchos, muchísimos) subreddits. Los posts los haces en el subreddit que tú quieras. Por ej, está http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming, http://www.reddit.com/r/sonic, http://www.reddit.com/r/funny .... puedes crear tus propios subreddits, así que hay de todo.

Reddit tiene una base de subreddits por defecto, que son los que ve cualquier persona que entra a Reddit sin estar registrado. Si te registras, puedes suscribirte a los subreddits que te de la gana, así al entrar a la web saldrán en la lista todos los posts de los subreddits suscritos.

[Bkron]

Bravo por el tío. Viva y bravo.

[Jefra]

Como puñetas se hace eso de que Sonic tenga espinas mas "fuertes". :shock:

[Bkron]

Como puñetas se hace eso de que Sonic tenga espinas mas "fuertes". :shock:

Con vitaminas.

[Henshin]

Y laca.

[Jefra]

Se veia venir, el último que apague la luz.